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Samodian and other N-P43+
Topic Started: Jul 13 2016, 04:36:12 PM (34 Views)
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N-P43+, B524+, B478+ according to Ilumae et al. 2016
Nenet: 29/42=69,0%
Nganasan: 25/50=50%
Taimyr Dolgans: 12/54=22,2%
Tuva: 17/95=17,9%
Khakass: 27/174=15,5%
northeastern Sakha: 7/65=10,8%
Shorians: 2/23=8,7%
NE Yakutian Even: 2/24=8,3%
"Altaians": 5/61=8,2%
Selkup: 3/43=7,0%
(partly northern) Yakutian Evenk: 3/57=5,3%
Mongols: 19/381=5,0%

=> As you can see in the MJN, one dark-blue/light-orange circle indicates that Nenet and South Siberian hts are probably closest to the root of the B478+ branch. Furthermore, frequencies indicate that this branch is very likely to have existed among Samodian-speakers until the latter or their descendants were linguistically assimilated by Sakha and Tungus in north and Khakass, Tuvans, Mongols etc in the south. (The locations of the samples previously examined by Fedorova et al. are mentioned in the paper of the latter.)

N-P43+, B524+, B525+ according to Ilumae et al. 2016
Siberian "Tatars": 4/221=1,8%
Kazaks: 2/185=1,1%
Mongols: 3/381=0,8%
Volga-Ural Tatars: 1/133=0,8%
(a few eastern Slavs)

=> So the B525+ branch of N-P43+ is more or less restricted to Turkic-speakers and Mongolic-speakers. And its closeness to the B478+ branch via the shared B524+ mutation seems to indicate that the patrilineal ancestors of these men might have spoken Samodian or Samodian-related languages as well. Then again, the hts seem to be relatively distant from those in the B478+ branch. So a follow-up study should clarify.

Fedorova et al. 2013: "Autosomal and uniparental portraits of the native populations of Sakha"; doi: 10.1186/1471-2148-13-127
Ilumae et al. 2016: "Human Y Chromosome Haplogroup N"; http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.ajhg.2016.05.025
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