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| lay dialectologist | May 22 2013, 07:06:19 PM Post #1 |
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Rhoticisation, the development of proto-(Oghuro)-Turkic *-/r/, *-/z/, and *-/d/ to /r/ separates the Oghur branch\from the rest of (Oghuro)-Turkic, which exhibits /z/. However, an alternate reconstruction puts the Oghuric /r/ and /l/ as the original (which fits into Altaic reconstruction); this would mean Oghuric is not one branch but just retain the original phonetics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Turkic I put "Oghuro" to add the the usual name of the language family, "Turkic", because to the best of my knowledge "Turk" only came into use with the Gokturks after the family had split. However, the description of Khazaria as "Tourkia" may mean the name precedes the bifurcation of the language family. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars "The glottochronological reconstruction based on analysis of isoglosses and Sinicisms points to the timing of the r/z split at around 56 BCE-48 CE, associated with "the historical situation that can be seen in the history of the Huns' division onto the Northern and Southern: the first separation and withdrawal of the Northern Huns to the west has occurred, as was stated above, in 56 BC,...the second split of the (Eastern) Huns into the northern and southern groups happened in 48 AD" from which time the Northern branch steadily migrated from western Mongolia through southern Xinjiang into the north's Dzungaria and then finally into Kazakhstan's Zhetysu until the 5th century.[1]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Turkic Possible, without serious evidence, that an (Oghuro)-Turkic language is spoken in the Hunnic empire. (p. Probably members of the Oghuric branch (chronology taken mainly from Hungarians and Europe in the Early Middle Ages): Oghur/Ughur/Oghor - origjinated from Ob/Khazakh steppe region [Sogdia] in 350, attacked by the Sabirs and Avars/Rouran [The Rouran were a confederation led by Mongolic Xianbei people who remained in the Mongolian steppes after most Xianbei migrated south to Northern China and set up various kingdoms] ->defeated Oghur: first appear in literature in 463, driven by attacks by the Sabir and Rouran/Avars Saraghur/Sharaghur (Shara/Sara Oghur), Onoghur (On Oghur) ("Alternative suggestions have connected the Onogurs with the polity of the Western Turkic Kaghanate as the "People of 10 Arrows" (On-oq-ar)") ->two Uralic tribes and eight Turkic tribes (composed of Sabirs, Onogurs, and the three tribes of the Kabars) ->Khurturghur ->Kutrighur ->Utughu/Utigur (former came under West Turk khanate control) -->came to be known as Onoghundur after being ruled by Onuq (Wetsern Gokturks/Onuq); mentioned nearly everywhere together with or same as Bulgars (p. 208 Hungrians and Europe in the Early Middle Ages) --->fomer Bulgars: a leading tribe in the Onoghundur that overthrew Onuq/Western Gokturk rule later Bulgars: name representing the Oghuric tribes united under Bukgars: "The earliest Bulgar written documents date from the 8th century AD. Inscriptions exist both in Greek and Bulgar using the Greek alphabet. There are also some inscriptions in a runic script, not yet convincingly deciphered. The script shows similarities with other runic scripts of Central Asia, such as Turkic (Orkhon) and Pamirian runic scripts. “ brachycephalic europeids with slight mongoloid admixtures”. http://www.csc.kth.se/~dilian/Papers/bulgars.pdf ->absorbed Oghur: Rouran placed Avar leaders, Vars, as their heads -->these tribes later came to a the main role in the Avar empire, leading Chinese sources to list Oghur as "leading" tribes in the Avar --->Var and Hunni (leading tribes of Oghur) came to represent the entire tribe ----->became mistaken as Avars -> " Euopean Avars" Chuvash Other (Oghuro)-Turkic people in the West that were possibly Oghuric: Sabirs (no known linguistic evidence according to book) Khazars (ruling elite may have been Oghuro-Turkic, with the leader being "khagan") Edited by lay dialectologist, May 22 2013, 07:14:21 PM.
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