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| black man | Sep 17 2006, 10:19:18 PM Post #1 |
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Henry Schwarz links the legendary homeland of the Daghurs along the Shira Muren River to the "heartland" of the Khitan empire (Schwarz, p. 155). There must have been a "Parhae"/"Bohai" population around as well (ibid.), with whom their ancestors might have mixed(?). (Strangely, we hardly have any posts about the history of this region in this forum.) Furthermore, Schwarz speculates that the Nen (Nonni) River could have been like a borderline between the ancestors of the Daghurs and a population of the Jin empire in the 12th century (Schwarz, p. 156). In the first half of the 18th century Qing government sent some more than 700 Daghurs to the northern frontier of the empire. Their task was to protect the population of the Qing empire from the Russians. They founded Hailar city, the district of which is still ethno-demographically interesting, in the Barga / Khingan area (Schwarz, pp. 158-9). This has something to do with the history of the Solon Ewenks, too, btw. Source: Schwarz: "The Daurs of China: an outline". general information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Khitan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daur http://www.chine-informations.com/mods/dos...on=fiche&id=787 in the media: http://china.org.cn/english/2001/Aug/16896.htm genetic studies: http://www.cjcu.jlu.edu.cn/2006e2/2006e2.htm http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=P...b0dafec85d6bed8 "Genetic Structure Analysis of Human Remains from Khitan Noble Necropolis" by Xu et al., 2006 and "Phylogenetic Analysis of mtDNA from the Ancient Human of Yuan Dynasty in Inner Mongolia in China" by Fu et al., 2006 |
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| ren | Sep 18 2006, 12:58:59 AM Post #2 |
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The conclusion reached in the first study, http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S1005-9040(06)60060-3, is below. The Duar are indeed the closest population to these Khitan noblemen. (The Duar are also the closest to the ancient site samples in the second study, though these were probably not Khitan or perhaps they were dispersed Khitan after the fall of their Liao/Khitan empire.) I just wish the first study reported the specific mtDNA lineages they found. However, since it reports that the Khitan are far from Central Asians, I'm assuming there was no W. Eurasian lineages found as in the Xiongnu and Wanggu.
More conclusions:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also, this comment by Karolus on the first Wiki site is thoroughly useless, since the surnames mentioned are the most common anywhere in N. China and probably in the whole country.
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| black man | Nov 7 2012, 12:16:53 PM Post #3 |
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According to figure 17 in the "Northeast Asia" paper by Tumen from 2011, medieval "Inner Mongolia" is close to "modern Koreans". By contrast, modern Khalkhs and Buryats cluster with Tuvans and Sakha. Even the Tungus are closer to Buryats and Khalkhs than the "Inner Mongolia"/"Korean" cluster is. If I'm not mistaken, "Inner Mongolia" will be Khitans as ancestors or relatives of modern Daghurs. I think, this is in accordance with what earlier anthropometrists wrote and, btw, also with what sahaliyan told us. |
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