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C-M217 trees according to samples known from published studies
Topic Started: Jul 28 2012, 04:47:59 AM (856 Views)
black man
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update in 2018: two major branches and some more so far less known clades

One might take a look at the new C-M217+ trees at the following addreses...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ApgR7Cy607PLCSl7lJVBeA4dEJIEGjSUjdohZdoeN_E/edit#gid=0
https://www.yfull.com/tree/C/

According to those new trees, one can associate certain SNP clades with samples as follows...

1) C-IMS-"JST645622+13":

C-B79+: one Koryak sample of Karmin et al. 2015

C-F1699+:
- P39+: Amerindian: known from older studies
- FGC28881.2+: North Asian(?): features the B77+ Koryak sample and the B78+ Altai kizhi sample of Karmin et al. 2015

C-M48+:
- M77+/M86+: northern Tungus, Oyiraad (Karmin et al. 2015 among others)
- B90+: Koryak (Karmin et al. 2015)

C-M504+, M401+:
- Aisin Gioro samples (Yan Shi et al. 2014)
- "Daur Clade" of Wei Lanhai et al. 2018
- Hazara and probably also Khalkh (Di Cristofaro et al. 2013)
- Kerey (Wei Lanhai et al. 2018)

Sources:
Di Cristofaro et al. 2013: "Afghan Hindu Kush"; doi: 10.1371/journal.pone.0076748
Karmin et al. 2015: "A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture"; doi: 10.1101/gr.186684.114
Wei Lanhai et al. 2018: "Whole-sequence analysis indicates that the Y chromosome C2*-Star Cluster traces back to ordinary Mongols, rather than Genghis Khan"; doi: 10.1038/s41431-017-0012-3
Yan Shi et al. 2014: "Y Chromosome of Aisin Gioro, the Imperial House of Qing Dynasty"




2) C-F1067+, Z1338+:

F845+: the current (2018) yfull tree branch primarily features Chinese samples from mostly Han provinces; however, the presence of a Xishuangbanna Tai-only branch (defined by the K511+ marker) in this tree could imply an originally pre-Sinitic clade; slightly more than 2% of the Korean samples of Kwon et al. 2015 belong to this clade, too

Z1300+, CTS2657+:
- majority 50/67=74,6% of the Korean Z1300+ samples of Kwon So-Yeun et al. 2015; the position of the Korean sample in the current (2018) yfull tree is among coastal (Beijing and Jiangsu) and riverine (Hubei) Chinese samples and, thus, possibly implies a common pre-Sinitic/"Palaeoasiatic" substratum in Koreans and coastal Han (there don't seem to be any known Tibeto-Burman samples within this clade according to this tree, which confirms the finding of Zhong Hua et al. 2010 that Korean y hg C samples don't share any hts with Tibeto-Burman ones)
- Buryat, Khamnigan, Soyot etc M407+ samples (Malyarchuk et al. 2010)

Z1330+, Z8440+: the current (2018) yfull tree branch features Chinese samples from mostly Han provinces as well as one Bangladeshi sample; i.e., this branch could be Sino-Tibetan rather than Korean despite of the fact that 17/67=25,4% of the Korean Z1330+ samples of Kwon et al. 2015 have this mutation, too

Sources:
Kwon So-Yeun et al. 2015: "Confirmation of Y haplogroup tree topologies with newly suggested Y-SNPs for the C2, O2b and O3a subhaplogroups"; doi: 10.1016/j.fsigen.2015.06.003
Malyarchuk et al. 2010: "Phylogeography of the Y-chromosome haplogroup C in northern Eurasia"; doi: 10.1111/j.1469-1809.2010.00601.x
Zhong Hua et al. 2010: "Global distribution of Y-chromosome haplogroup C"; doi: 10.1038/jhg.2010.40

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sahaliyan
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Accord to unpublished SNP data, M407 and Z1338 form one branch,the branch common on southern Tungusic,Koreans,Han Chinese,Mongols and so on.
M48,star cluster,C3* 448del,P53 form another branch,common in Turkic and Mongolic people,the Xibes of Xinjiang.
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How did M407+ spread to Han Chinese? Any clues?
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black man
Jul 28 2012, 06:25:22 AM
How did M407+ spread to Han Chinese? Any clues?
I don't know,maybe from the historical Altaic invaders?However M407 is different with the mainstream northern Asian C3,in SNP,more close to the Chinese-Korean-Japanese C3
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Can you sum up the administrative presences of Manchus and related people in central and southern China, please?

The Mongols are known to have been interested in Dali. That way one could explain M407+ in Yunnan. But I find the Hubei Tujia and Guizhou Han M407+ hard to explain. One lineage even managed to get to Cambodia according to Zhong Hua et al.
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sanj
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i may be M217
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