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| ren | Nov 1 2006, 04:04:47 AM Post #1 |
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Sino-Tibetan & Austronesian proposed by Laurent Sagart. Tai-Kadai is actually a branch of Austronesian in this theory. It is based on the comparative method, the reconstruction of roots/cognates, and falsifiable (scientifically provable or disprovable), but so far has received no general support, or support at all, in the linguistic community. Sagart's articles: Sagart, Laurent. (2002). Sino-Tibeto-Austronesian: An updated and improved argument (PDF). Paper presented at Ninth International Conference on Austronesian Linguistics (ICAL9). 8-11 January 2002. Canberra, Australia. (found this on Wikipedia's Austronesian page) Sagart, Laurant. Proto-Austronesian and the Old Chinese evidence for Sino-Austronesian. 33:271308 (1994). Oceanic Linguistics Sagart,L. (1990) Chinese and Austronesian are genetically related. Paper presented at the 23rd International Conference on Sino-Tibetan Languages and Linguistics,October 1990,Arlington, Texas. Sagart's further refinements: The vocabulary of cereal cultivation and the phylogeny of East Asian languages A critique of it by Starostin: http://starling.rinet.ru/Texts/fbasic.htm Some articles about the various Asian language families' proposed relationships: http://www.uhpress.hawaii.edu/journals/ol/OL332.html Edited by ren, Aug 8 2010, 07:58:34 PM.
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| qrasy | Nov 13 2006, 01:53:49 PM Post #2 |
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The same critique by Starostin, but in pdf format: http://starling.rinet.ru/Texts/ochin.pdf (looks better as it shows the IPA symbols more correctly, but takes longer time to load) |
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iyɨʉɯu||ɪʏɪ̈ʊ̈ʊ||eψɘɵɤo||e̞ψ̞əɤ̞o̞||ɛɜɞʌɔ||ζɐ||aɶδɑɒ mɱn̪nɳɲŋɴ ɸβfvθπʃʒʂʐ ŋ̍ m̩ n̩ ʰːˑ ɐ̆ɕʑ | |
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| ren | May 24 2008, 03:58:43 AM Post #3 |
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Comments on Sino-Tibetan-Austronesian from LingList: http://lloyd.emich.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind99...=1&F=&S=&P=4379 Some general info. on East Asian language families and theories: http://www.ohll.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/pages/doc...256,1,Languages and genes: recent work and emerging results Aussois: 22-25 September 2005 2010-8-8 Austronesian vocab database with Old Chinese comparison http://language.psy.auckland.ac.nz/austronesian/language.php?id=331&history=all Edited by ren, Aug 8 2010, 07:58:08 PM.
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| ren | Aug 8 2010, 07:56:42 PM Post #4 |
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Some Hypotheses on the Formation of East Asian Language Families http://www.ddl.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/colloques/NDHL2008/Powerpoint/10-Sagart.pdf The homeland of Sino-Tibetan-Austronesian: where and when ? http://comonca.org.cn/PDF/2011/COMONCA05-021.pdf .Other linguists who support Sagart: 2010-11-8 Chinese linguist supporting Sagart: "Han-Zangyu tongyuanci yanjiu, vol. 3: Han-Zangyu yanjiu de fangfalun tansuo [Cognate words in Sino-Tibetan languages, vol. 3: Methodological issues in Sino-Tibetan research] (review)" new: 1. Vovin: "Building a 'Bum-pa for Sino-Caucasian" has gone from against it to supporting it (he was in favor of Sino-Caucasian) p. 164 -"has managed to acquire supporters from a general historical linguistic audience, and this support seems to grow tih everyday" 2. Hyslop has reconstructed on her own and her reconstructions also support Sagart. 3. Reid has also come to support this theory.
Source: Peopling of East Asia 4. van Driem's supports this theory over Sino-Caucasian SINO-AUSTRONESIAN VS. SINO-CAUCASIAN, SINO-BODIC VS. SINO-TIBETAN, AND TIBETO-BURMAN AS DEFAULT THEORY http://www.eastling.org/paper/Driem.pdf 5. Confirmation from an independent theory: Rethinking the *-s hypothesis for Chinese qusheng tone http://chinese.pku.edu.cn/shisheng/teacher...shengorigin.pdf 2010-8-17 Austronesian Roots and Sino-Tibetan - Hanson Some Current Issues in Austronesian Linguistics - Malcom D. Ross What is Sino-Tibetan? Snapshot of a Field and a Language Family in Flux - Zev Handel |
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