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| black man | May 27 2018, 12:54:01 PM Post #1 |
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most recent addendum: I forgot to mention two things: - the "Palaeoasiatic type" which would be defined by the two values mentioned below seemed to be present in a small number of men mostly in their early 20s from Jeolla-do and a small number of men in their early 30s from Gyeonggi-do. I.e., the metric values are not simply features of any specific age group. Plus, the few men from Jeolla-do were already the complete sample from Jeolla-do. So this "type" could have been more present in Jeolla-do than in Gyeonggi-do with the total sample of the latter having included more men with relatively and absolutely smaller orbits. - note that this is anyway mostly about "transitional types", i.e., as Nurizone mentioned in the "Korea and Koreans in the context of racial typological perspectives in Western languages from the 1930s on" thread, there is no evidence for any of relevant populations having been perfectly isolated from all others for millenia. Similarly, if there are Japanese, Chinese and Manchurian control samples, they will have to be considered in terms of ethno-historical and geographical transitions. 1st addendum: the eye width data seem to indicate the presence of different types of broad-faced Koreans. Of these, the following ones appear to be more common: - "relatively broad cheekbones, relatively wide orbits" - "relatively broad cheekbones, relatively narrow orbits" - "relatively narrow cheekbones, relatively narrow orbits" While one might guess that "relatively broad cheekbones, relatively wide orbits" could be "Palaeoasiatic" because this trait combination appears tobe relatively unusual in present-day East Asia, the backgrounds of the two other trait combinations are less obvious. Statistical knowledge could lead to the guess that "relatively narrow cheekbones, relatively narrow orbits" could be "Chinese". And as a consequence, one might deduce that "relatively broad cheekbones, relatively narrow orbits" could be "Tungusic" despite of the relative lack of knowledge about the physical anthropology of Tungusic-speakers. But are the available data really unambiguous? Actually, there are clinal anthropometric differences between Manchu-Tungusic populations partly possibly due to genetic contributions from regions where there nowadayas mostly Han Chinese. And the Han Chinese who live in the Yellow Sea region (as well as Han beyond that region) might have "Tungusic" and/or "Tungus-like" admixtures as well. (See, e.g., the distribution pattern of y hg N-F1206+ according to Hu Kang et al. 2015 in "The dichotomy structure of Y chromosome Haplogroup N".) Apart from that, Kubo's data seem to confirm that the combination "relatively broad cheekbones, relatively wide orbits" (a trait combination present in many SE Asians) is probably less common in Koreans. old post: Some preliminary notes in case that there is interest... Kubo's Gangwon, Pyeongan and Hwanghae samples had the most narrow cheekbones on average. Most likely, the Gangwon sample was less broad-faced because of its average age. Then again, the partly pooled and individual data already indicate what could be obvious typological differences since the values from the other parts of the peninsula were significantly higher. In this sense, the more narrow-faced men might have resembled average northern Han Chinese and/or Manchus, whereas the more broad-faced men might have been statistically more different from Han Chinese and Manchus. So far, the data just confirm the possibility of historical influences since the times of the Lintun, Lelang and Zhenfan Commanderies. Accordingly, one could theoretically associate all more broad-faced populations of the peninsula with a Palaeoasiatic substratum. But in practice the data concerning other parts of the face could confirm differences between broad-faced people in different regions of the peninsula. Addenda planned to be posted later on. Source: Kubo 1913 |
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